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  1. Nov 11, 2018 #1
    Jimmy

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    Please fill in any relevant information that applies to you:
    • CentOS Version: CentOS 7 64bit ?
    • Centmin Mod Version Installed: 123.09beta01
    • Nginx Version Installed: i.e. 1.15.6
    • PHP Version Installed: 7.2.15
    • MariaDB MySQL Version Installed: i.e. 10.0.x or 10.1.xx or 10.2.xx
    I was curious if it was normal to have a 6GB file in my home directory called usertmp_donotdelete. The file was created tonight after an cm, nginx, and php upgrade (the machine hasn't been on in a few days).

    Not sure what this file is for??? The server doesn't have anything on it but a bunch of 10.0.0.XXX domains which are local dev domains. It a VPS on virtualbox.
     
  2. Nov 11, 2018 #2
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    that file is your /tmp mount file that centmin mod creates at initial install time hence DO NOT delete or /tmp will not work

    size of disk space allocated for /tmp depends on centmin mod detected /home free disk space
     
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    Is there somewhere that is set? My dev server is the same as my other servers (online) and none of the other servers have that file.
     
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    only non-OpenVZ servers would of have it i.e. KVM/XEN or dedicated. OpenVZ would skip such setup due to restrictions.
     
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    I have 4 servers:

    1. OVH dedicated - no file in /home
    2. SSDnodes - no file in /home
    3. SSDnodes - no file in /home
    4. VPS local on Virtualbox - 6GB file in home.

    My /home directory on all machines was setup that /root has all the space (deleted the home when setting up the disks initally) so there should be plenty of space on all machines
     
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    You can check /etc/fstab for /tmp entry
    Code (Text):
    cat /etc/fstab | grep '\/tmp'

    example
    Code (Text):
    cat /etc/fstab | grep '\/tmp'
/home/usertmp_donotdelete /tmp ext4 loop,rw,noexec,nosuid 0 0

    You can inspect the initial install log for centmin mod for keyword /tmp to see how it was setup via command
    Code (Text):
    grep -rni -A30 '\/tmp' /root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.*install.log

    example
    Code (Text):
    grep -rni -A30 '\/tmp' /root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.*install.log

grep -rni -A30 '\/tmp' /root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.*install.log 
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log:1181:Centmin Mod secure /tmp # Fri Oct 26 22:44:37 UTC 2018
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1182-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log:1183:* Secured /tmp and /var/tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1184-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log:1185:CentOS 7 Setup /tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1186-CentOS 7 + non-OpenVZ virtualisation detected
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1187-disabled
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1188-6291456+0 records in
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1189-6291456+0 records out
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1190-6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 49.1085 s, 131 MB/s
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1191-mke2fs 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1192-/home/usertmp_donotdelete is not a block special device.
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1193-Proceed anyway? (y,n) Discarding device blocks: done                           
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1194-Filesystem label=
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1195-OS type: Linux
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1196-Block size=4096 (log=2)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1197-Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1198-Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1199-393216 inodes, 1572864 blocks
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1200-78643 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1201-First data block=0
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1202-Maximum filesystem blocks=1610612736
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1203-48 block groups
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1204-32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1205-8192 inodes per group
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1206-Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1207-  32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1208-
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1209-Allocating group tables: done                           
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1210-Writing inode tables: done                           
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1211-Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1212-Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done 
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1213-
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1214-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_261018-224230_install.log-1215-* Setting preferred localtime for VPS

    or check /root/centminlogs/securedtmp.log which is populated at initial centmin mod install time
    Code (Text):
    cat /root/centminlogs/securedtmp.log 
Centmin Mod secure /tmp # Fri Oct 26 22:44:37 UTC 2018
*************************************************
* Secured /tmp and /var/tmp
*************************************************
CentOS 7 Setup /tmp
CentOS 7 + non-OpenVZ virtualisation detected
disabled
6291456+0 records in
6291456+0 records out
6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 49.1085 s, 131 MB/s
mke2fs 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013)
/home/usertmp_donotdelete is not a block special device.
Proceed anyway? (y,n) Discarding device blocks: done                           
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
393216 inodes, 1572864 blocks
78643 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
Maximum filesystem blocks=1610612736
48 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
8192 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
        32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736

Allocating group tables: done                           
Writing inode tables: done                           
Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
     
  7. Nov 11, 2018 #7
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    Here is my local:
    Code:
    # cat /etc/fstab | grep '\/tmp'
/home/usertmp_donotdelete /tmp ext4 loop,rw,noexec,nosuid 0 0
    Here is my SSDnodes:
    Code:
    # cat /etc/fstab | grep '\/tmp'
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid 0 0
    This is from my local virtualbox machine:
    Code:
    # grep -rni -A30 '\/tmp' /root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.*install.log
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log:1174:Centmin Mod secure /tmp # Sat Oct 27 22:56:34 EDT 2018
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1175-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log:1176:* Secured /tmp and /var/tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1177-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log:1178:CentOS 7 Setup /tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1179-CentOS 7 + non-OpenVZ virtualisation detected
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1180-disabled
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1181-6291456+0 records in
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1182-6291456+0 records out
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1183-6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 14.0302 s, 459 MB/s
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1184-mke2fs 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1185-/home/usertmp_donotdelete is not a block special device.
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1186-Proceed anyway? (y,n) Discarding device blocks: done                         
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1187-Filesystem label=
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1188-OS type: Linux
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1189-Block size=4096 (log=2)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1190-Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1191-Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1192-393216 inodes, 1572864 blocks
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1193-78643 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1194-First data block=0
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1195-Maximum filesystem blocks=1610612736
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1196-48 block groups
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1197-32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1198-8192 inodes per group
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1199-Superblock backups stored on blocks:
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1200-    32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1201-
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1202-Allocating group tables: done                         
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1203-Writing inode tables: done                         
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1204-Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1205-Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1206-
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1207-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b063_271018-225543_install.log-1208-* Setting preferred localtime for VPS
    This is from my SSDnodes:
    Code:
    # grep -rni -A30 '\/tmp' /root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.*install.log
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log:1436:Centmin Mod secure /tmp # Wed Jul 25 13:52:55 EDT 2018
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log-1437-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log:1438:* Secured /tmp and /var/tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log-1439-*************************************************
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log:1440:CentOS 7 Setup /tmp
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log-1441-CentOS 7 + non-OpenVZ virtualisation detected
/root/centminlogs/centminmod_123.09beta01.b040_250718-135126_install.log-1442-disabled
    I don't mind the 6GB file on the server, just was curious why it was on one server and not the others. All the install were using the beta 7.2 one line install. All drives are setup not to include /home as a separate partition.
     
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  8. Nov 11, 2018 #8
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    all look to have /tmp setup but maybe they didn't mount for some reason. If you rebooted/shutdown/restart server should mount them which is probably what you see when you mentioned server has been shutdown for days ???

    when you run
    Code (Text):
    mount -a
df -hT /tmp

    what do you get for output
     
  9. Nov 11, 2018 #9
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    Here is the output from the local dev server:
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    # mount -a
# df -hT /tmp
Filesystem     Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/loop0     ext4  5.8G   25M  5.5G   1% /tmp
    I can reboot if you want.
     
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    Here is the output from SSDnodes:
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    # mount -a
# df -hT /tmp
Filesystem     Type   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs          tmpfs   16G  1.2M   16G   1% /tmp
     
  11. Nov 11, 2018 #11
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    looks about right there when you have more than 16GB (actually >16000001 bytes) memory, /tmp uses ramdisk tmpfs instead of the /home/usertmp_donotdelete file

    centmin mod's goal at initial install time is for optimal sized /tmp as incorrect or small size can cause problems especially on low memory VPS i.e. 512MB ram VPS on CentOS 7 would usually have ~256MB tmpfs ram disk for /tmp on non-Centmin Mod systems. Centmin Mod will detect that and size an on disk /tmp that is larger to properly accomodate optimal usage based on detected and calculated disk free space on /home.

    At >16GB memory, you'd have ~8GB ram disk tmpfs for /tmp so don't need an on disk file and can get CentOS 7 set it's /tmp on tmpfs ram disk.
     
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  12. Nov 11, 2018 #12
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    Sounds good. I was transferring over some large files which I was going to dump in the /home dir on my local. I saw the file and wondered what it was.

    Thanks for your help in understand this!
     
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    I just installed CMM on alma9 and my output for the first command is blank:
    Code:
    cat /etc/fstab | grep '\/tmp'
    Code:
    mount -a
df -hT /tmp
Filesystem     Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/loop0     ext4  3.9G  152K  3.7G   1% /tmp
    Alma9 came without a swap file, so I created one (prior to installing CMM) per this info.

    Is the 4 GB usertmp_donotdelete necessary?
     
  14. Jul 7, 2024 #14
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    Still needed
    Code (Text):
    ls -lah /home/usertmp_donotdelete
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.0G Jul  6 16:46 /home/usertmp_donotdelete

    But only if you have less than 15.25GB of memory installed. If you have more than 15.25GB of memory, /home/usertmp_donotdelete isn't created if disk space is adequate as is for /tmp should. The original aim is still the same from https://community.centminmod.com/threads/usertmp_donotdelete-file.16005/#post-68497 for lower memory/disk systems.

    But how it's used differs so no longer from /etc/fstab but via mount-loop.service service. I believe I changed this setup due to @Matt reported issue at https://community.centminmod.com/th...ocky8-causing-ro-file-system-on-reboot.23763/

    i.e. /tmp setup as a /dev/loop0
    Code (Text):
    df -hT
Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs       devtmpfs  4.0M     0  4.0M   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     3.8G     0  3.8G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.6G  8.8M  1.5G   1% /run
/dev/vda4      xfs        79G  9.0G   70G  12% /
/dev/vda3      xfs       960M  299M  662M  32% /boot
/dev/vda2      vfat      200M  7.1M  193M   4% /boot/efi
tmpfs          tmpfs     769M     0  769M   0% /run/user/0
/dev/loop0     ext4      3.9G  116K  3.7G   1% /tmp

    via /etc/systemd/system/mount-loop.service
    Code (Text):
    [Unit]
Description=Mount loop device for /tmp
After=local-fs.target
Requires=local-fs.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/mount-loop.sh
ExecStop=/usr/bin/umount /tmp
Type=oneshot
RemainAfterExit=yes

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
     
  15. Jul 7, 2024 #15
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    how did you install AlmaLinux 9 and Centmin Mod? swap should of been configured though could of been you installed on earlier Centmin Mod 130.00beta01 during beta before the changes were made. Though recall should of still created swap.
    Code (Text):
    free -mlt
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            7682        1804        5297          15         889        5877
Low:            7682        2384        5297
High:              0           0           0
Swap:           4095           0        4095
Total:         11778        1804        9393
     
  16. Jul 7, 2024 #16
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    I installed Alma9 via Hetzner new server creation. I installed CMM 140.00beta01 via centminmod.com/install.html

    Code:
    yum -y update
curl -O https://centminmod.com/betainstaller82.sh && chmod 0700 betainstaller82.sh && bash betainstaller82.sh
    Code:
    ls -lah /home/usertmp_donotdelete
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.0G Jul  6 13:40 /home/usertmp_donotdelete
    Code:
    ===============================================================================
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            3563         905         813         150        2233        2658
Swap:           4095           7        4088
===============================================================================
Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs       devtmpfs  4.0M     0  4.0M   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.8G  1.1M  1.8G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs          tmpfs     713M  8.7M  705M   2% /run
/dev/sda1      ext4       38G   12G   25G  33% /
/dev/sda14     vfat       64M  7.1M   57M  12% /boot/efi
/dev/loop0     ext4      3.9G  176K  3.7G   1% /tmp
tmpfs          tmpfs     357M  4.0K  357M   1% /run/user/0
     
  17. Jul 7, 2024 #17
    eva2000

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    That is expected output :)
     
  18. Jul 7, 2024 #18
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    So besides the OS 4 GB swap file, CMM needs to create and use another permanent 4 GB swap file?
     
  19. Jul 7, 2024 #19
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    Yup initial installer does that now
     
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