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Wordpress CEO after WP Engine's head

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  1. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    And in doing so, you burden the infra of Wordpress to the point that when various parties continuously start mirroring Wordpress, with a massive number of servers simultaneously. Hour by hour, day by day and month by month. Matt will again look for a reason of overload or even DDOS, that it legitimizes him (in his opinion), to charge money (update as a service) or even deny certain parties access. Unfortunately, there are plenty of means to frustrate certain customers.


    The whole of this saga has everything about it being planned in advance. And that the time is there to cash in with both Wordpress commercial (.com) and update as a service (.org).
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Yeah I can imagine. Seems from initial glance the SVN are hosted on Singlehop web hosting. Put behind Cloudflare with CDN cache could offload alot of the burden I suppose.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    I've now also developed a 2nd variant of the plugin scripts that download plugin zip files instead of SVN mirror and leveraging Cloudflare customer Worker which binds to Cloudflare R2 S3 bucket, so plugin download script connects to Worker and the worker checks if plugin exists in R2 bucket and if not, fetches from wordpress.org and then saves a copy in R2 bucket. So subsequent download requests for same plugin version will be served from R2 bucket saved version instead of wordpress.org :cool:

    I haven't added CDN caching yet to offload request load from R2 bucket yet. Using a similar method for my email validation API script for caching commercial email validation API results in Cloudflare but using K/V cache GitHub - centminmod/validate-emails

    This system offers several advantages:

    • Efficient caching of plugins to reduce load on WordPress servers
    • Version tracking to avoid unnecessary downloads
    • Parallel processing for faster bulk downloads
    • Detailed logging for troubleshooting
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    The WordPress vs. WP Engine drama, explained | TechCrunch

     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    My proof of concept for Cloudflare Worker/R2 S3 bucket and Cloudflare CDN cached WordPress plugin mirror system I whipped up get_plugins_r2.sh WordPress plugins mirror and Cloudflare Worker/R2 Bucket cache proxying proof of concept
     
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    Nice. Very nice.
     
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    Cheers. It started off as a POC, but it's growing in scope - hooked it into Github workflow automation with a cache/R2 bucket population only mode, so you don't actually download the Wordpress plugins, just populates the Cloudflare R2 bucket and mirror download site :D

    In other news or rumours, Matt might be telling his Automattic employees if they don't like his actions, they are free to leave with a payout package x.com
     
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    Wow more escalation if true Mullenweg threatens corporate takeover of WP Engine – The Repository

     
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    Another Matthew, Cloudflare CEO offering wordpress.org assistance x.com
     
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    Looks like Matt is going after WPEngine customers now x.com
     
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    Was just about to post this but you beat me to it.

    The reddit post you linked was deleted but the tweet is still live.

    Here is the doc - https://wpengine.com/wp-content/upl...WP-Engine-v-Automattic-et-al-with-Exhibit.pdf

    Honestly, hope WP Engine wins but if they win, no idea how Matt would react and what he'll do to the future of Wordpress since I think he holds all of the cards and if he doesn't get what he wants, he'll just throw away his toys?
     
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    With the way he's acting, that could be a possibility ! :eek:
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    I have read parts of the complaint. This document includes multiple sources that indeed show that Matt confirmed that he is the only one with access to Wordpress.org and WP.org et al.

    I have described it before but this is an extremely bad thing (single point of failure) and has nothing to do with a community / open source project. Once again because Cloudflare has offered to host Wordpress.org.

    But that's not the point at all. It's about money. I know, this complaint was written by a single party. But chronologically reflects how Matt with his profit company's has been tightening the thumbscrews against competing parties for years.

    And then tighter and tighter and tighter over the time. That includes brand names shifting owners and back, denying access to Wordpress.org, sending negative texts out into the world and targeting customers at competitors.

    If WPengine loses this case it will be over for them one day. As I read in the document, they mainly have web agencies as consumers. So this implies that their end customer (the customers of the web agencies) does not (can't) manage a website themselves. But will complain to the agency if their site is not working oke. Or have to specially hire someone. The capacity of the staff c.q. financially is not up to it to continuously have to adjust websites time over time again because one guy called Matt continuously adjusts Wordpress.org. And this Matt knows that darn well. Nowhere does it say that a company must donate 8% or whatever perentage. After all, what other company has had this claim?

    Ultimately, this is a sad state of affairs. The only ones who benefit from this are the lawyers. Who had to write a piece within just a few days with all the evidence and also substantiated. Given the very short time, this has really cost a ton of money. Since a reputable lawyer charges 600 - 1000 $ per hour.
     
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    Yup total mess!

    And now Matt has said his Automattic employees that don't agree with his actions can leave, and so the exodus has started https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/s/Q50Y3OiXCW

    Looks like 37 Automattic employees have accepted the offer to leave so far x.com
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Whoo... It is not yet proven and thus debatable whether Matt is right. He has, in my opinion, multiple appearances against him, from many independent sources. Though I don't shrive to say it's like that either. I consider it downright unlikely that Matt is right.

    You cannot expect this from your staff. Matt is probably financially independent, but many of his staff are with some certainty not. You can't just leave your job. Mortgage, food, children and their expenses. It seems so easy to switch, but it's definitely not always like that. So there are probably beyond those 37, workers who want to leave but can't just leave.

    What's the matter c.q. happend with Matt?
     
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    Yeah Matt's actions and way he went about it are definitely wrong IMHO. That isn't the way to use trademark as an excuse to extort WPEngine. It would be like tracking down the person who stole your wallet and setting their house of fire.
     
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    That's more like it in my opinion, 10 thieves steal 10 wallets. Only one thief is located, charged and tried to burn his house. Because you know it's a very rich thief, and you can make him pay nicely through lawsuits, and a lot too. The rest stay out of harm's way, because there's nothing to get there anyway.

    Or in Wordpress terms, there are an unprecedented number of companies that run WP or Wordpress and uses both names and trademarks in their business name /nor slogan. But they are apparently too cliquey to get some $. By chance or too chance, Matt picks his biggest competitor. Those 1.5 million WPengine customers, that's what matters. It appears to me that Matt would love to have those.