IP.Board To cloud or not to cloud...

Coming up on 20years for my forum (5m+), yay.
They'd be off to university by now if Id not been so busy back then

Time comes when I find myself wondering, if I want to always be thinking about taking a laptop with me to fix any hosting issues. Or to avail of the new 'cloud' Invision are offering. It's AWS for invision in case folk didn't know.

A part of me, wants to throw everything on them, and let the old emergency boot bag x230 sleep it's last sleep.

A part of me does not want to trust my data to a saas platform I have to request a backup from. I invisiage the day something happens and I've lost it all.

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Also means moving from a top level domain/forums to a forums.domain, or hand over my domain nameservers to them too. Apart from the SEO hit, I'd likely move all my supporting apps/mail etc to a new domain, like a .uk one or whatever.

I'm quite torn.

To that end, while it's going to ultimately cost me slightly more on the monthlys, I'm pushing out to other saas, so bonsai for elastic search, linode managed mysql, can then try to wrestle invison into a load balanced setup. It's all a single node atm, which has been surpisngly robust on linode.

That pushing out to smaller saas services in my mind, is peace of mind, that the boot bag x230 can perhaps not be a thing to worry about.

I'd also happily pay someone to be a infrastructre admin, should I find myself at the bottom of a mountain face with bandages on

Anyone any thoughts on to cloud or not to cloud, similar feelings, position?

 

Oh very aware that +1 = doubling of downtime risk. have been testing 3node on lined and up space and even planet scale.

Actually encountering a total lack of ssl support for invision hasn't helped. Fun times, it turns out I had the same problem in 2018; love finding old posts you have no memory of making. So that's making using a hosted db quite difficult. Without having to use sqlproxy. Just another cog.

re cloud definition, lol yes, well it's all the cloud now isn't it, I think my kettle is cloud enabled. j/k.

A software vendors cloud product, vs well the cloud.

Very much struggling to give up control, but equally feeling the drag of responsibility

 

@cloud9 thank you so much for that reply.

I've been trying to get info out of them, and it was the blood out of the stone. Like a simple how long, lead time on conversion, so I can, you know plan it... I've paused discussion with them at the moment I just don't trust them. Your comments have helped Being out of my control and not able to recover from it would be a nightmare.

Technically I was ok with not being able to alter anything or upload beyond there own market place. *if* what they promised was delivered. I'd of been wanting a backup daily. Can you imagine that happening!

I've had a few and actually re-activated my XF license. Then had a fun day with some of the beastly VPS's doing the migration <2hours on a 48core box...

I'd have to agree on support and issue raising. I've not done a huge amount, but those I have, well ignored is too kind. Sent them a patch to there s3 setup to protect s3 buckets from open access. Still like it 4years later, costly.

Still switching is a 'nuclear' option, big upheaval... but free pies at a meet up might make up for it. New members won't know the difference etc.

@rdan yes the slow pace and sense of needing more plugins is the contra to the mire of the ips security; maybe...

I do regret not going to xf years ago in the great vb exedous.
They're presently working up a migration cost to carry over our subscribers, maybe I could work it out in sql, or do by hand. Depending on how much it is, ie doable, I'd make it a free add or donate it back to them.
With Mike leaving, their pace will be slowed. The real risk there is stalling/collapse, but it will still work unlike ips callbacks. However there are almost no other real choices. Looked at woltlab burning boards a good few years back, I liked it, team didn't.

@eva2000 yes sorry I did. And yes proxysql running on our test install between upcloud and linode Few gotchas on mysql8, but seems to work otherwise.