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CentOS 8.x SUSE Liberty Linux released

Discussion in 'CentOS, Redhat & Oracle Linux News' started by buik, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    SUSE just released SUSE Liberty Linux.
    Without all the marketing blah blah. SUSE Liberty Linux is a rebuild of RHEL.
    The idea is that with a mixed fleet (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and Red Hat Enterprise Linux) you buy all the support from 1 vendor only and that is SUSE. Obviously as an interim solution. SUSE wants you to run SUSE everywhere, eventually :)

     
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    Wow so much RPM based distros now - hard keeping track of them. Will see which rises to the top :)
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    It must be painful for SUSE programmers that some of them have to go and clone Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) because there is apparently a demand for it, from their own SUSE customers. Where the competitor's product is apparently preferred over their own.

    In my experience, SUSE delivers fine products.
    Especially in combination with SAP, a die hard combination.

    I have also had the opportunity to meet several SUSE employees in real life and they are very passionate with a big heart for their profession.

    My main SUSE Linux Enterprise problem (and of course I have already linked back to that) is that they change too much bits (new software versions incl. core BaseOS components) during the release of their enterprise software.

    For example, releasing a brand new kernel when the product has been on the market for two+ years. That is too risky (in my view) for mission-critical systems.

    My preference is still: RHEL.
    No new software versions but only backport patches if strictly necessary.

    Although I have to be honest, RHEL has also become less of a success to me.
    With the advent of AppStream since RHEL 8.

    Apps like nginx do have a support cycle of +- 3 years independently of the RHEL core (BaseOS) (10 years+ support) (kernel, openssl, systemd etc). That is far too little.

    Every RHEL release brings new frequently requested app releases to the AppStream.
    That is fine for those who want them. Problem is that there is no full AppStream catalog with the same release time as the core of 10 years or even more with extended support.

    Some apps from the AppStream like PHP 7.4 have 10 years of support. But this varies and does not apply to the entire AppStream catalog. So you will always have to run new software here or there.

    The solution is very simple.
    Make a full AppStream catalog (my preference the first one, it is the closest to the BaseOS) equal to the support cycle of the core (10 years+) packages and every new AppStream app with a support cycle of 3 years or more, if desired.

    Then you always have a stable, feature full BaseOS and where necessary or desirable,
    you pick up new apps from the latest AppStream.
     
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    Yeah making AppStream like EL7's SCL repository for GCC and devtoolset chains being able to pick newer than Base OS version alternatives.

    Though REMI's PHP repo via in EL8 operates that way it seems for newer PHP versions.
     
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    It seems as if SUSE Liberty Linux is only offered when there is no other option and the existing customer wants an EL-based distribution at any cost, on its own initiative.
    SUSE Liberty Linux is not actively promoted; you cannot download or buy it.