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Price Increases (specifically Hetzner - But will be others)

Discussion in 'Virtual Private Server (VPS) hosting' started by cloud9, Aug 12, 2022.

  1. cloud9

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    Got an email from Hetzner today, along with the rising costs economically they are increasing their prices, I would imagine others will also be looking at costs and making price rises......


     
  2. eva2000

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    Thanks for the heads up! Seems reasonable given the inflation and gas/electricity issues in Europe right now. Nice of them to give existing users more time Dec 2022/Jan 2023 too.
     
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    Yes its very good of them and given every one a good few months heads up to decide if they wan to move around....

    I wont be - had excellent service from them and they open the email ports for me for the server emails etc

    Im in the UK and the estimated electricity & gas charges for an average household for the year (2023) is going to be around £4300 - Last year I was paying £1400 a year so people are going to be hit very hard.....

    The fuel (diesel and petrol) is at an extortionate level now as well, my old estate car (the dog car for my dogs) used to cost £70 diesel to fill up when completely empty, its now around £115 to fill it up.....
     
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    Same. Was paying £120 a month last year, and it's gone to £295 a month now, and I have 18 solar panels on my roof :(
     
  5. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Best wishes. to all those with (too) high energy bills. I myself have a multi-year (pre conflict) contract that doesn't expire until early 2024. I'm fine unless they don't go bankrupt or the government makes up the excuse and voids all contracts to (supposedly) show solidarity with all of the inhabitants.

    Anyway, it does irritate me. There are a few companies and a few billionaires getting very rich right now. With the excuse, war, corona, chip shortage etc.

    Some oil and gas companies are turning 90+% more profit. But politicians looked at it and thought it was fine.

    Politicians want to keep open the possibility of an easy job (a commesorship in a large company) later in their career. And remain pussycat to the big boys.
     
  6. Jay Chen

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    I got the same email for the USA based VPS I have with them.
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Wondering if Hetzner is actually spending more on power.
    Or if it's a simple way to raise prices.

    Often large consumers buy off the energy consumption for several years.
    Additionally. Bulk consumers (>100.000 kWh electricity and/or ≥G40 m3 for gas) in Europe pay much less for energy than home users consumers.
     
  8. eva2000

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    Ouch! That monthly price rise is more like my quarterly electricity bill!
    You'd have to wonder, if supply costs go up and the supplier can't honour their pricing contracts, what do you do? eat the price rise or ultimate break contracts and raise prices?

    That's what's happening in building/housing development industry right now. Building/developers are going under as supply side increases go way beyond what they can absorb and their customer contracted prices don't cover their raised costs.
     
  9. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Hetzner bought a very large site of 50 hectares a few years back for a solar panel park. Then they are not dependent on a supplier. And they are self-sufficient. Then you can send an email that the electricity price in Germany has been increased from € 0.29/kWh to € 0.45/kWh. But if you are self-sufficient that is irrelevant. And just an easy way to increase revenue under the guise of expensive energy.
     
  10. Jay Chen

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    Increase is not much, more like around $20/year for me. If this is what they need to continue to provide the service at current level, I don't mind paying it.
     
  11. eva2000

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    But is that solar energy enough and reliable as a primary energy source. They're probably using at a supplementary energy source and not primary.
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Why indicate by Hetzner that the specific electricity via an external supplier has increased in price by € 0.29/kWh to € 0.45/kWh but not report what you generate yourself, consume and thus defacto, if neeeded, have to buy extra. If at all necessary. When you make prices public. Then make the whole picture public and not specific cost items. When only specific data is made public. You can't do much with it.
     
  13. cloud9

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    I have a 4kW array on my roof as well, so am putting in a direct pressurised hot water cylinder to feed the combo and have an immersion controller - it clamps the mains and fires the immersion when im exporting - so free hot water - with that and using stuff in the daytime when the suns out now rather than using it whenever - im still at my old rate of £120 a month ish
     
  14. eva2000

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    Now it's OVH's turn https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022-and-2023/