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Nginx NGINX’s Plan to Create a $1 Billion Business

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  1. eva2000

    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Interesting article about Nginx's plans to become a $1 billion dollar business


     
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    cut in the number of new options and features at the open source version so over time, you have no choice other than switching to plus.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    We shall see, but yes nginx plus features may not all filter down to open source nginx version which is expected as there is no such thing as a free lunch - even with open source software. There's always a cost whether it's monetary in nature or time/effort in deploying your own workaround solutions for missing open source nginx features i.e. WAF - web application firewall alternatives like naxsi, modsecurity or deploying 3rd party WAFs from cloudflare or incapsula or sucuri cloudproxy etc :)
     
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    Can't agree sorry. There was no commercial Nginx company behind Nginx from start till mid 2011. in those almost 10 years they also needed to eat, isn't it? Open source project gets popular and after a time the founder want to cash. Noting to do with open or open source. Thats it. What else? Ive seen it before with for example CyanogenMod/Cyanogen.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Have you see any business operating that doesn't want more $$$ than they have now and are satisfied with what they have in the bank right now ? Not even non-profits would knock back having more than they have in the bank now :)
     
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    That's because they lived on sponsorships or private work/feature requests paid by companies wanting specific features etc. It was an informal way - Nginx Inc is just formalising that and growing based on that demand. Well that's how I read it.
     
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    Sure a company is founded to gain money but without open source Nginx there was no Nginx company.
    The Russian Nginx founder has no interest in its constituency, as a result of which Nginx has become so great.
    He only does want a lot of American dollars :).
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes but nginx open source development by Nginx folks is now ensured due to Nginx Plus and Nginx Inc's financial viability. I believe it's also why you are seeing Nginx open source growing in popularity after 2011 due to also big businesses and other smaller Nginx users having more confidence in Nginx open source + Nginx Plus long term stability and viability financially.

    Also once you start a company and receive funding from 3rd party investors, the very nature of the company is for-profit and a return on investment to investors. No way around that objective :)

    Look at w3tech's nginx market usage share over 2010-2016, the 1st big jump of 4.2% was from 2011-2012 and then 4% came 1yr after Nginx Inc was formed from 2012-2013 and just kept going since then Historical yearly trends in the usage of web servers, August 2016

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    Those features could be open sourced as well. Its a choice.
    About Nginx's BSD license.

    I'm not a guru into BSD licenses.
    But isn't it like GPL that you should reveal each new commit/addition to the source?
    So you could make your own ideal Nginx with additions from plus.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Unfortunately understanding open source licensing isn't my thing :LOL:

    BSD licenses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Thanks @eva2000
    The BSD license is very short.
    Cleverly done by Nginx to use this kind of license.
    Nginx has no obligation to provide sources other then the source already released in the past.

    Furthermore. The source Nginx released could be used by anyone.
    The only thing you need to do is write there name,
    copyright notice and disclaimer in the source.
     
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    waf? anything that helps with layer-7 ddos is a "TAKE MY CASH ALREADY" deal.

    hope it will be easy to upgrade to nginx plus.. eh @eva? on centmin
     
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    Although I hope the Nginx that meets my needs will remain free, I wish them the best of luck.

    The most successful open-source projects that have the greatest impact are those whose creators were able to develop into successful businesses, which are then incentivized to make significant investments back into its evolution (RHEL & CentOS, Firefox, WordPress, Android, etc.).
     
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    wait what, their pricing.. minimum $1900/year.. hell no!
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    yes and per server too hehe

    true, wordpress is the best example !
     
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