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  1. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.” Premium Member

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    Navy Linux will release its Navy Linux release on 01-07-2021.
    Navy Linux will be rpm compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
    A nice add-on is that they start their own EPEL named SELR: Stable Enterprise Linux Repository.
    This is the fourth release to fill the CentOS 8 gap, as CentOS Linux 8 ends in December 2021. Always good to see more options being added.

     
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    Thanks for the heads up! Never heard of Navy Linux, but more the merrier I say :D

    hmm is Navy Linux leap frogging Redhat 8.3 for GCC versions provided ? RH 8, CentOS 8 and AlmaLinux use GCC 8.x by default and GCC 9/10 access via gcc-toolset packages but Navy Linux's GIT server is working on GCC 10.2.x Packaging / gcc · GitLab ?
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.” Premium Member

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    I don't think so. Compiling software with a newer GCC may give new, specific GCC10 based bugs, errors, compatibility or other GCC related problems. As Red Hat compiles its own software using the default 8 GCC. There is no knowlage base for GCC 10. So in case of problems who or what do you consult?

    It is unlikely that a small team like Navy is going to repackage thousands of packages with a newer GCC.

    In addition, it could also be that Navy Linux is no longer 100% compatible with RHEL.
    Therefore it is also highly unlikely that they would try this.

    I think the GCC 10 is in git to make it faster to repackage, or semi automate this task. I won't be surprised if they add the GCC 8 and 9 branch later.
     
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    Probably so. Though wouldn't make sense if RedHat/CentOS 8 natively already have gcc-toolset-9/10 offerings so GCC 9 and GCC 10 would already be part of AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux and Navy Linux 8.3+ out of the box package offerings.
     
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    I don't think Navy will release Navy Linux on July 1.
    No activity on their git for ages.
     
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    Yeah just ~2 days till the deadline date!
     
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    Navy Linux Release 8.4 Beta released.

    Respect for the small team to rebuild a large distro.
    It seems so easy. But it is secretly a lot of work.
     
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    Navy Linux 8.4 Now Available!
    Good to see that there is plenty of replacement for CentOS.
     
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    Nice - more choice is good :D
     
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    wow very nice. Hope AlmaLinux does something similar, though it would eat into it's KernelCare paid product!
     
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    KernelCare focuses on the supported stable distro kernel so I don't think that's a problem about eating into its own product. It also targets customers running the stable kernel.

    Apart from that, I'm not such a fan of KernelCare or related products.

    Why do you want to run none or 0-day tested 0 day code on Kernel, Glibc & OpenSSL in an enterprise system?

    As can be read on the website, KernelCare focuses on: "large enterprise Linux infrastructures".

    With a large infrastructure, everything runs redundantly or perhaps even more.
    Then there is absolutely no reason to run these kinds of tools.

    Because of the redundancy, you can easily pull out some systems or even cages full of systems to update (hardware and software) with official hardware and updates. Without downtime of the service that you are running.
     
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    Is that the case for Navy Linux 5.x Linux Kernels too though?
     
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    Of course.
    Why would you want to run a 5.x (Fedora) kernel on an Enterprise system anyway?

    It is not hardware certified, not supported. So in debugging. For example, in case of problems. You are on your own.