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CDN Cloudflare KeyCDN vs. Cloudflare CDN?

Discussion in 'Domains, DNS, Email & SSL Certificates' started by RoldanLT, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

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    Clearly for me, Cloudflare wins :).

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    with only 8 hops and averaging 86ms.

    How about on your location? :)
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    well hard to beat Cloudflare's number of pops = 76 locations and counting :)

    If Cloudflare supported geodns, I'd try them out for centminmod.com :D
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    FYI, going to do a little experiment for centminmod.com soon comparing CDNs from
    • centminmod.com origin
    • centminmod.net origin
    • keycdn
    • cdn77
    • maxcdn
    • amazon cloudfront
    • cloudflare
    :D
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Just did webpagetest.org tests with centminmod.com on my own Amazon route53 geo latency cluster of VPSes with just fonts offloaded to KeyCDN vs Cloudflare on same site with different domain centmin.sh :D

    Tested with 5Mbps cable speeds with 5 runs each test over Los Angeles, Paris and Singapore regions in Chrome browser.

    centminmod.com wins over cloudflare for me :D

    centminmod.com route53 setup has more redundancy as the origin is over 16+ VPSes servers so any one of those fail, the site should in theory still work once dns fail over kicks in. Cloudflare usually only has 1 origin for normal sites so if origin fails it will be down. But as my centminmod.com origin for centmin.sh on Cloudflare is also over my geo latency Route53 dns cluster, it also will survive origin downtimes :)

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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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  6. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

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    Amazon DNS + KeyCDN both paid vs. Clouflare DNS/CDN FREE :D
    Still Cloudflare is great to have and still the winner for my budget ;)
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Yeah free is good.. just you don't learn anything new if you don't try it yourself :D and well there's no way to play with different SSL configurations on Cloudflare unless you host it yourself :)
     
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    Also cloudflare have best security advantages then others. So, cloudflare should wins in total :)
     
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    Using https://pulse.turbobytes.com/ to test DNS response time from 91 worldwide locations

    • centminmod.com - Amazon Route53 DNS
    • centminmod.net - Rage4 DNS
    • centmin.sh - Cloudflare DNS

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    Seems Amazon is really good at DNS :)
     
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    2nd run

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    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

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    Still very close with Cloudflare, it's just that Amazon always win with a very small gap :D.
     
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    yeah

    Pulse Turbobytes HTTP response tests (not DNS response tests) over 91 server locations

    looks like Cloudflare had some issues or the test servers did ?

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    ah Cloudflare had issues from China location servers

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    but Amazon Route53 had same issues too

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    but notice the difference in times for CN - Shanghai

    Amazon Route53 for centminmod.com which I have setup geo latency dns to direct to my Singapore based Centmin Mod LEMP stack VPS server :)
    Code:
    DNS     Connect     TTFB     Total
    47    157    158    369    139.162.29.188:80
    Cloudflare for centmin.sh where DNS time was 3.59x times slower, Connect was 1.45x times slower, TTFB was 3.92x times slower and total time was 2.78x times slower
    Code:
    DNS     Connect     TTFB     Total
    169    228    619    1,024    104.27.173.154:80
     
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    ModeltogTossen I wish I could??

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    I also did, inspired by this thread, a Pulse Turbobytes dns test.. I asked for ns2 (secondary dns) on my ns1 (primary) dns servers. They are both Vultr 768 vps. The OS and dns software is - Debian 8 and PowerDNS. On the ns1 I also have a nginx server for handle the Poweradmin interface. Dnssec must still be doing by shell access.

    Pulse returned this:

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    Cloudflare has Manila Philippines Server now! Nice!
    Test Ping.
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    On status page also :)
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    Cloudflare offers a great service. Using them now on my cpanel site. The only problem CF is that they control your keys... that is unless you don't care about that or you're willing to pay $200 a month per site (business plan).

    Something about a big company like CF controlling your keys that is unsettling.
     
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    internet is all about a level of trust that is needed

    Big one is open source software - you're trusting developers and contributors `to do the right thing` with their code and trusting onlookers who inspect the open source code to know what they are doing or have a level of understanding for the code etc