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Do you block countries like China on your production servers?

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  1. Nov 16, 2019 #1
    Jon Snow

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    I've noticed a large amount of China traffic recently. It's strange.

    So I've been considering to block China as a country as a whole. I don't think any of my member base is from China. There could be legitimate guests but I'll have to check GA to confirm.

    Anyone here blocks China and other countries on their popular site production servers?
     
  2. Nov 16, 2019 #2
    buik

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    Yup.

    But as "There could be legitimate guests but I'll have to check GA to confirm."

    It might be a better idea to use a blacklist with abusive IP addresses and domain names.
    Then block an entire country.
     
  3. Nov 16, 2019 #3
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    I have legit China visitors so can't block them all. But with Cloudflare in front can filter some out by default and for rest use CF Firewall Rules

    Example my Cloudflare Firewall rules based on CF Threat Score determines if they get JS Challenge or they get Blocked.

    From Known Issues and FAQ - Cloudflare Firewall Rules

    and Fields and expressions - Cloudflare Firewall Rules

    cf-firewall-rules-threat-score-161119.png

    I also have more finer grain Firewall rules for China specifically depending on which request paths the visitor is coming from etc
     
  4. Nov 16, 2019 #4
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    For Centmin Mod's CSF Firewall level country blocking read CSF - How to block country traffic in CSF Firewall including note about being careful to not block countries where Centmin Mod's download dependencies servers are located in. Otherwise, you block Centmin Mod's ability to update itself.
     
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    I use the CF rules also.
     
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    I setup one to JS challenge china traffic, but everything seems to get through. I can see errors in my IPS error log.
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    (http.host eq "domain.com") and (ip.geoip.country eq "CN") and (cf.client.bot or cf.threat_score ge 10)
    I would normally just challenge everything from the country, but I though finer tuning would be better. Just learning how to use these rules vs. just blanketing the whole country.
     
  7. Nov 22, 2019 #7
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    How would I block the domain name?

    I'm seeing more with the hostname (different hostnames but same domain):

    ecs-159-138-154-238.compute.hwclouds-dns.com

    Too many IPs to manually add to the block list.
     
  8. Nov 22, 2019 #8
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    There are ready to use blocklists. The same goes for blacklist domains.
     
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    Doesn't that only block user agents? I have it enabled already.

    I don't think the log is getting any useful user agent content for the IP address:
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    159.138.156.147 - - [21/Nov/2019:13:37:31 +0000] "GET /forum/threads/blahblah.999/ HTTP/1.1" 200 15053 "-" "Mozilla/5.0(Linux;U;Android 5.1.1;zh-CN;OPPO A33 Build/LMY47V) AppleWebKit/537.36(KHTML,like Gecko) Version/4.0 Chrome/40.0.2214.89 UCBrowser/11.7.0.953 Mobile Safari/537.36"
    Edit: I had to block another country this time.
     
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    Don't know if you use a solution in front like Cloudflare.
    because you have no information about this.

    That is why it is somewhat difficult to advise.
    But blacklists are blocking ips, domains, just what the list specifies.

    Blocklist.de is a common example.
     
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    I don't use Cloudflare. Only what's available in CMM.
     
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    Ok.
    Did you enable the blacklists that CSF offers?
     
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    CSF blocklists advanced config Centmin Mod style https://community.centminmod.com/th...-09beta01-extended-csf-firewall-tweaks.11745/. More details at https://community.centminmod.com/posts/50058/

     
  15. Nov 23, 2019 #15
    Jon Snow

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    @eva2000 but that's still IP based right? Can a domain from a hostname be blocked?
     
  16. Nov 23, 2019 #16
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    yes you block by IP only - hostname isn't an option as it's easy to change hostnames anyway. You should use Cloudflare Firewall rules/User Agent blocking mentioned here in conjunction with CSF Firewall

    Cloudflare Firewall fields you can use https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules/fields-and-expressions/

    Also you can rate limit requests at Cloudflare level or Centmin Mod Nginx level https://www.nginx.com/blog/rate-limiting-nginx/
     
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