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Nginx Cloudflare Ditches Nginx For In-House, Pingora

Discussion in 'Nginx and PHP-FPM news & discussions' started by buik, Sep 20, 2022.

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  1. Sep 20, 2022 #1
    buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-we-built-pingora-the-proxy-that-connects-cloudflare-to-the-internet/
    Cloudflare Ditches Nginx For In-House, Rust-Written Pingora - Phoronix
     
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    Yeah they outgrew Nginx! Can't wait to try it out when they open source it :D
     
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    I wonder if it actually ever comes open source, eventually. Cloudflare had also opensourced its patches. But has gone back on it due to the storm of support tickets on Github.

    Many times, too, with questions to the known.
     
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    Yeah their track record for open source can be mixed. At least their Quiche HTTP/3 implementation is going well. But they haven't updated their Nginx HTTP/3 Quiche/BoringSSL implementation from Nginx 1.16 stable release. And with Pingora now their HTTP proxy priority, I wonder if that Nginx/Quiche/BoringSSL patch will ever get updated?
     
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    That's not going to happen. At least that's what I think.
    That Cloudflare stays with version 1.16 probably has a good reason. This version they use (seems to) internally and has too many changes that upgrading to a newer Nginx version each time takes too much time. In addition, Nginx is adding new features time over time, and are or seems to be unlikely to be of interest to Cloudflare.

    Probably Nginx/Quiche/BoringSSL will still be maintained until the last servers are running on the new software.

    The question remains whether Pingora is convenient for outsiders. Should it be opensourced. It was developed specifically for Cloudflare's requirements and needs. And is, of course, optimized on Cloudflare's BoringSSL fork. Which we do not have access to.
     
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