CentOS 8.x CentOS Project Shifts Focus To CentOS 8 Stream Effectively Ending CentOS 8 In 2021

Just thinking if Intel's Clear Linux could be a good option when CentOS 7 reaches end of life?

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True.
These development costs are mainly in Cloudlinux. Where, as mentioned before, only the kernel and some other packages need to be modified for Lenix. Because the rest of the RPMs have already been rebuilt/cloned from upstream Red Hat EL8. As CloudLinux is a clone of EL8 already (with additions).

Clear Linux is an open source, rolling release.

Same as CentOS Stream on the rolling reason cycle. And that's why CentOS 8 will no longer be suitable as Stream next year.

Precisely for this 'rolling reason' it is less suitable as a web server. Because programs can be upgraded on a daily basis. It is possible that you have to adjust Centminmod on a daily basis. That cannot be done easily.

Apart from the other drawbacks of a rolling release.

 

Hi, community,
if I may through my 2 cents in this discussion
I think going again with let's call it (opensource by the enterprise) operating systems a step back in all meanings.
What made Centos the preferred choice for many clients despite that is upstreamed from RHEL
is the established well-known path of open-source thinking of its developers and the stability.
Doing the same mistake again and going with an os related to an enterprise is just not optimistic

Enterprises shift their focusing and funding like every day with every meeting they have or every financial crisis they face.

for now, I think the only contender here is RockyLinux. that if Eva is going to stick to his guns and focus on a real centos compatible alternative os. to keep the Mod source intact.
otherwise, if there is any change in platform or Mod source code I think it should support FreeBSD or any edgy opensource platform.

my humble opinion

 

Lots of PR from both Rocky Linux, Project Lenix and Oracle Linux *.
Naturally, the parties would like to take over the current users of CentOS.
To exclude a party right now seems a bit early to me.

I want to see it again in a year's time.
When all PR has descended.

It is important. How many active developers will be actively involved after a year or more.

With reference points:

1. How many days after RHEL released its release, the fork * will release their release.
2. How many days after RHEL released its updated package, the fork * will release their update.

When I look at Oracle it now takes a week to two weeks for a release.
An update often comes on the same day or a day later.

These are excellent results for a free to use product, and are even much better than the current CentOS. CentOS manages to release CentOS 8, 140 days later.

First I want to see if Rocky Linux and Project Lenix can offer this. And if so, could they deliver it also on a longer term.

To achieve this, you almost need paid staff. This has Project Lenix by Cloudlinux.
Rocky Linux should have a lot of volunteers to achieve this.
Nowadays this is hardly possible with a few volunteers.

 

Funny to see that Red Hat, citing IBM is (stil) advertising CentOS 8 as default OS on their IBM cloud platform. Bare, compute etc etc. CentOS 8 is their preferred OS.

 

There are quite a few products built around CentOS, which have been bitten badly by the switch to CentOS stream. This feels a bit like "damage control" from Red Hat, because suddenly SUSE, Debian and Ubuntu are attractive alternatives.

 

So a single developer (or team?) can use up to 16 free RHEL licenses. Are they nerfed? I thought the old one-free license was nerfed to be limited to one processor or something.

Of course, in 6 months or a year, they'll start spamming people to pay for those licenses.

 

Hetzner is now offering only CentOS 8 with new dedicated servers, at least for the new AX101 (Ryzen 5950X):
Dedicated Root Server Hosting - Hetzner Online GmbH

Centos 7.8 is not available due to "incompatibility issues".

 

It is because of RHEL 7 and its clone CentOS 7 is in Maintenance Support **.
As Zen3 = Ryzen 5950X is supported since kernel 5.10.

Zen3 is backported from kernel 5.10 as improved hardware enablement to RHEL 8 / CentOS 8 *.

Zen3 is not backported from kernel 5.10 as RHEL 7 / CentOS 7 is in Maintenance Support.

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Wouldn't ElRepo's kernel fix this? ELRepo | kernel-ml. So installing CentOS 7.9 manually for Hetzner is a possibility?

Btw, I have heard good things from developers about NixOS: NixOS - Explore

 

Technically it should be, yes. But as installing the elrepo installation requires a running system.

You need to change the kernel on the installation medium as the server won't boot with the default non compatible upstream kernel.

You could use Oracle's unbreakable linux boot cd tot give it a try. But i don't know about their Zen3 support for EL7 or not.

Futuremore Zen3 is not tested with EL7.
So even if you managed to run it on that brand new machine. It is not recommended to run in a business environment.