CentOS 8.x CentOS Project Shifts Focus To CentOS 8 Stream Effectively Ending CentOS 8 In 2021

And https://docs.cloudlinux.com/introduction/

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Yeah but still has been something of interest for me (maybe as an optional feature). But something far away anyway for now.

Arstechnica wrote an excellent article on this CentOS 8 Stream announcement too and Redhat has confirmed CentOS 8 Stream is not a replacement for CentOS 8 that they're ending. CentOS 8 is effectively dead CentOS Linux is dead—and Red Hat says Stream is “not a replacement”

 

Cloud Linux moved their announcement to their own blog post as WHT forums gave them an infraction warning for posting it on WHT forums Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

 

Something I didn't even think of yet but was reminded of https://twitter.com/engintron_sh/status/1337112245294215171 is what about Centmin Mod's name after CentOS 7 EOL in 2024 and all that is left is whatever RH compatible alternative is available - Oracle Linux, Cloud Linux or Rocky Linux? hmmm

 

Handy indeed

Reading on one of the Reddit discussions, will be interesting to see what happens with Amazon AWS's Amazon Linux which was based off of CentOS too AFAIK Linux on AWS. And what will web hosts do now that offer CentOS 8 images? Do you really still offer them up knowing CentOS 8 will be dead this time next year? Or offer up a straight CentOS 8 Stream ISO/image instead?

 

Yup Cloud Linux is already here and the fact they have KernelCare means they'll have closer control over patching and updates then folks who just rebuild the RH upstream Kernel.

Rocky Linux is gaining more media attention though. This time from The Register Rocky Linux is go: CentOS founder's new project aims to be 100% compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux

and on RH not getting in the way of folks rebuilding the RH packages

And well community projects like these are ultimately dependent on community contribution. Though with Cloud Linux they'd have another group driving it - cPanel and other control panels who rely on CentOS as their OS. They're more liking to switch to Cloud Linux 8 given its position already in shared hosting industry.

Cloud Linux has also reached out to Rocky Linux to see about what kind of co-colabration can be done too. Afterall, if Rocky Linux does become CentOS replacement, Cloud Linux and it's products would have to support Rocky Linux too.

 

Interesting Twitter thread at https://twitter.com/carlwgeorge/status/1336901625290625024

 

FYI, Oracle Linux has updated their centos2ol conversion script to support CentOS 8 to Oracle Linux 8 conversion https://twitter.com/AviAtOracle/status/1337256147208740867

Note, Centmin Mod doesn't support CentOS 8 nor does it support Oracle Linux 8 right now (haven't completely tested for them)

 

Indeed when I did test with Oracle Linux 6, it was for the newer UEK kernel as CentOS 6 Kernel was just too old. But with CentOS 7 release, the 3.10 Kernel caught up with Oracle UEK kernels. But more I read, the Oracle UEK kernels are not as stable or recommended to use RedHat Kernel??? Is the instability the reason for such recommendations?

 

Totally get what you're saying, just I've been using Elrepo 5.1 to 5.8 Kernels and Linode 5.1 to 5.8 Kernels for ages now. Guess depends on the hardware too though

 

Yeah they do. Though I did ask them once and Linode said their custom 5.x Kernels come directly from kernel.org just built with their additional hardware support and obviously tested.

Yeah true, I do a yum version lock and have a separate elrepo kernel updater script which can do a version unlock and update so I am not always updating the kernels when they first come out.

Look at what they did with CentOS 6 it's EOL since November 30, 2020 last month and they pulled all repos. Haven't looked if all mirrors are gone though.

ok just checked and yup all CentOS 6 mirrrors are gone from actual mirrorlist.txt file at least

Code (Text):

yum list updates
YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
 Eg. Invalid release/repo/arch combination/
removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors: /var/cache/yum/x86_64/6/base/mirrorlist.txt
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base

when using mirrorlist at least

Code (Text):

[base]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Base
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=os&infra=$infra
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/os/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-6
priority=1

#released updates
[updates]
name=CentOS-$releasever - Updates
mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=updates&infra=$infra
#baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/updates/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-6
priority=1

there's no a Vault Mirror for them Index of /

CentOS 6.10 Vault Mirror at Index of /6.10 and their RPM packages at Index of /6.10/os/x86_64/Packages

Yeah you'd be stuck now if you want a stable dev OS for mirroring/testing RHEL. But Redhat next year are meant to release versions or lower cost options for such dev work - probably need to pay I suspect.

 

Redhat has also posted an article to clarify what CentOS 8 Streams new roll will be and why/how it came into being. CentOS 8 Stream is now intended to be a continuous delivery tool for Redhat 8+ updates and end up as Redhat Errata Updates CentOS Stream is Continuous Delivery – Blog.CentOS.org

 

Redhat also posted a article on how RedHat is made at How RHEL is Made – Blog.CentOS.org