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Discussion in 'CentOS, Redhat & Oracle Linux News' started by buik, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. eva2000

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    About the CentOS 8 building status.
    Let's hope for a reasonable, timely release.
     
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    (y) Nice thanks for the update :)
     
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    Update on CentOS 8

    is in progress now.
    Build Loop 0 and 1 are ready now.
    QA work and counting.
     
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    :cool:Progress is good (y)
     
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    Update regarding EPEL 8 yum repo which Centmin Mod would need support for under CentOS 8 The State Of EPEL-8 For Complementing RHEL8's Packages - Phoronix. Looks like EPEL is ~November 2019 ish time frame.

    SmoogeSpace: EPEL-8 Production Layout

     
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  7. buik

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    Probably in august so month or month + 2 weeks.
     
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    That seems fairly standard for many tech shops I have had the pleasure of learning about...
     
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    Some screenies from Oracle Linux 8 :)
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    ClearOS has been discussed but I couldn't find the thread. This is supported by Intel which has multiple reasons to continue to both support it and keep it open source. Some advantages appear to be:

    It supports EPEL, centos-sclo-rh/x86_64, centos verified, clear DYNDNS, and other repos.

    ClearOS promotes development partners through their site which could be taken advantage of by EVA2000.

    They have a wordpress add in but it does not look like it is being supported. The last update was months ago.

    ClearOS is being pushed out to popular cloud host environments as a , network OS friendly container. They work with KVM and other environments.

    This appears to be gaining support among cloud hosts. For example, SSD Nodes/Strasmore says that they are working to add it as an install option soon.

    ClearOS wins in many categories of performance on Intel platforms. However, it could benefit from similar tweaks, module extensions and streamlined support found in CentminMod.

    Why not ClearOS_Mod? The work might be rewarded with a better tuned, more timely OS that Intel will spend money to keep in front of the performance curve because billions of dollars of processor and server sales hang on it. Jumping ship from the stoggy old incumbent Centos would not be easy but the field would is open to put what has been done here 'on steroids' with a support of one of the largest companies behind it.

    Every time a new Redhat release comes out it opens up the same old can of worms: When will Centos 8 (x) come out? When will it support xxx repos? When will it be reliable across repos (beyond the old cliches that it is slow to be stable.... only to then unearth problems due to insufficient staff and testing-debugging support).

    EVA has done a world-class job producing Centminmod but that takes a lot of filling in the blanks left by what is, IMO, lousy support of Centos.
     
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    Yeah been keeping an eye on Intel's ClearOS for it's performance so maybe one day when I do have time. If I was working full time on Centmin Mod and could make a living from it, then I could do alot more feature wise and time wise. But as is Centmin Mod is only worked on in my spare time so only so much I can do right now. The focus is perfecting Centmin Mod 123.09beta01 and the work on documentation for centminmod.com site etc.

    Though on Centmin Mod development dash board's wishlist column, Fedora OS is one wishlist item https://github.com/centminmod/centminmod/projects/1
     
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    Excuse my lack of knowledge but isn’t ClearOS also based on Redhat and centos?
     
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    sort of but they have their own package manager not RPM/YUM
     
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    ClearOS is based on Contribs which is based on CentOS + attribution.
    As you can see in the source, ClearOS has changed a lot.

    It is going more and more away from Contribs and CentOS.

    That is https://clearlinux.org/: Clear Linux OS.

    ClearOS is something else.
     
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    I think it is worthwhile to strongly consider. You might look into the community and see if they agree with the need to have a first class, optimized Wordpress stack for ClearOS. It seems to me that would be a winning combination of a highly optimized OS that is aimed at the new virtualized environments and an optimized WordPress server environment. This is the direction that cloud services will go. The trend will be involvement of mobile network operators, optimized/compiled hardware-software and containerized service stacks.
    The advantage of ClearOS is that should allow you to focus more on Wordpress rather than the OS optimization and package support. The potentially bigger thing for you is if you can work your way into being available across VPS providers and ClearOS as part of their container offerings. You have the basic package and support package... You might provide the basic as a free or low cost ClearOS stack container and a pro supported package. Other providers sell support and customization services as well.

    If things trend the way I think, the market will be shifting away from installing core OS like Centos, or particularly Centos due to lack of support behind it, to the pre-stacked container approach. You would also want to have an install package and may want to start with that... but having a container that could be chosen the user's VPS provider would be a way to spread your work without involvement and then charge for upgrade to pro or customized versions imo.
     
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    CentOS 8 build info:
     
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