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Discussion in 'CentOS, Redhat & Oracle Linux News' started by buik, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. buik

    buik Well-Known Member

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    The current Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released topic is actually just about CentOS 8,
    hence a new topic.

    About the current build status of CentOS 8.
    Almost a month after the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.

    It seems again the same crap as with CentOS 7.
    One man show Johnny Hughes rebuilds the system, the rest of the team (also in the service of Red Hat) does ..... but what? is there to create work? To be allowed to stay in function?

    Totally no idea what those do. Fly off Linux events in the world?
    To spread the word how important is Linux?

    Nice pictures on their social media of the most hip events around the world. (Hi Mum!)

    Pretend to do if you are important (With a very long function name).
    It looks like a big mess there.
     
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  2. eva2000

    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    cheers for starting a new thread - maybe soon we can utilise it for testing/feedback on CentOS 8 - fingers crossed despite the extra work they're making for themselves :D
     
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    I'm still very happy with CentOS 7 but always ready for the future.
     
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  4. buik

    buik Well-Known Member

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    Looking at the past Oracle Linux 7 (43 days after releasing RHEL). Oracle Linux 8 will be available within days.

    Because it is available for free and compatible with RHEL 8 and CentOS 8. It Is ideal to test with Centminmod or your own,code, scripts etc.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Centmin Mod use to be compatible with Oracle 6.x, haven't tested it much at all since CentOS 7 arrived as all I really needed from Oracle Linux was it's newer Linux kernels which CentOS 7 provided at the time 2.6.x > 3.10 :)
     
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    Yup but you could test Centminmod against Oracle Linux 8 with Red Hat compatible kernel and without Oracle own kernel (UEK). And if CentOS 8 is available you are a step extra ahead. Centminmod CentOS 8 compatibility should / could release faster / earlier.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Yeah my spare time availability ain't that great right now for that level of testing so it's ok to wait for CentOS 8 testing heh. It would be an entirely different matter if I was able to be paid to work on Centmin Mod full time - I'd have so much stuff done and tested already as opposed to working on Centmin Mod just in my spare time :D

    Also has Centmin Mod relies on 3rd party YUM repositories, upgrading and testing CentOS 8 will also involve ensuring 3rd party YUM repositories are up to speed on CentOS 8 too.
     
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    CentOS 8 is about 1 or 2 months out from release according to Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CentOS-8.0-Still-Aiming

    edit: from CentOS Blog CentOS Community Newsletter, June 2019 (#1906) – Blog.CentOS.org

     
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    Somewhat bad news is EPEL 8 YUM repo isn't due until October 2019 according to Infrastructure 2020/EPEL-8 - Fedora Project Wiki. Centmin Mod uses EPEL YUM repo as well so CentOS 8 and EPEL 8 are needed.

     
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    Now we are debating frequently about EL8.
    Oracle Linux is mostly available earlier than CentOS. (Also updates).
    That's a pre.

    What I don't like about Oracle Linux (And probably also Oracle Linux 8).
    That they mix their own code with the upstream source.

    It is compatible but seems to be increasingly on a fork.
    Not only on bugs but also enhancement updates.

    Example for Docker:
     
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    Yeah Oracle Linux does mix them up. Also Oracle Linux 8 availability wouldn't help Centmin Mod much as still requires EPEL 8 YUM support. I count between 39-69 EPEL 7 yum packages installed by Centmin Mod 123.09beta01 installs of mine on CentOS 7 depending on what I have installed feature wise.
     
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    Oracle does have its own epel. Don't know if this is fork or mirror stuff.
     
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    buik Well-Known Member

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    Interesting info from the CentOS wiki in development.
    Bye bye to 1024 ram memory VPS servers.
     
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    That more memory is needed by the new RHEL 8 doesn't matter me.
    TB's of RAM available over here.

    That the core needs more memory to be able to at least be able to run that does matter me. Fedora and so RHEL is more and more bloatwarish an that's not something I'm happy with.

    If you put EL 6, EL 7 and EL8 next to each other, more and more services and extra APPS are needed/used and are being turned on by default to achieve the same.

    For example networking was a script before and is now APP NetworkManager (For example NetworkManager offers a WiFi manager. WTF WiFi manager for servers).

    In My world of mission critical this is something you want to avoid decisively.
    Any unnecessary APP or revolving redundant feature. every patch, each new bit, any code change, also with good intention can again cause instability by bugs, vulnerabilities or crashes.
     
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    A significant improvement in RHEL 8 appears to be the better-integrated support for virtualization. particularly KVM. I think this stress on virtualization will be a defining area of future versions of the Linux and all other OS/NOS platforms.
     
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  17. buik

    buik Well-Known Member

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    Yup it is Red Hat & the Chocolate Factory about that.
    In short, like an EL 8 candy store; Something for everyone.
     
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    buik Well-Known Member

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    Hello Hello.
    Choose your own desktop. CentOS 8 Classic or modern.
    [​IMG]
     
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    CentOS 8 ISO out in beta/alpha form ? or just a preview screenshot floating around the internet ?
     
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    buik Well-Known Member

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    Haha someone gets impatient :)

    You want one? Come and get one.
    100 $ for you my friend.

    No all joking aside.
    These screenshots sway around.

    It will take some time (I expect months) to release CentOS 8.
    It's a one man show (Johnny Hughes). You know.
    For the rest of the CentOS team. It is party time. With party boy.
     
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