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Discussion in 'Install & Upgrades or Pre-Install Questions' started by steph40, Feb 10, 2024.

  1. steph40

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    Is it worth installing centos 7 for a few months or is beta stable enough for almalinux 8?

     
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    Decided to stick to centos 7. Installing it now.
     
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    I am running Alma 8 for months now on my big board without any issues.

    @eva2000 wants to upgrade the 130 beta to the new default installer also.

    I suggest using Alma or Rocky now to prevent an cumbersome upgrade later.
     
  4. eva2000

    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Personally, I only install Centmin Mod on AlmaLinux 8 :)
     
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    Thank you, I have installed almalinux 8 and centminmod. So far so good.
     
  6. Jon Snow

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    Centos 7 reaches EOL on June 30th 2024.

    Is there a poll showing how many people switched their production sites already or rather wait it out?
     
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    I am still on Centos7 but very much thinking of what to do soon
     
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    Alma or Rocky Linux 8
     
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    I'm in the same situation.

    If I spin up new servers, I will obviously use Alma or Rocky.
     
  10. eva2000

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    Either is good. Though my personal preference is AlmaLinux :D
     
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    Why AlmaLinux over RockyLinux??
     
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    Personal preference
     
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    Alma = pinky ring (reach) pinky
    Rocky = (reach) (reach) (reach) middle (reach)

    Alma less work to do
     
  14. deltahf

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    Yeah, I'm still on CentOS 7. My current plan is to move to a new Alma server before it goes EOL in the next few months.
     
  15. eva2000

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    Personal preference - Almalinux's experience with developing CloudLinux and Kernel Care are factors as well.
    Yeah 130.00beta01 will eventually have some tools for this too via centmin.sh menu option 21 revisions - still not that user friendly on restore side (working on that).

    Centmin Mod Premium forum members have a thread in private forum at https://community.centminmod.com/th...tmin-sh-menu-option-21-data-management.24429/ including a very detailed and thorough documentation for centmin.sh menu option 21 at centminmod/datamanagement/centmin.sh-menu-21.readme.md at 130.00beta01 · centminmod/centminmod that I highly recommend folks bookmark and read.

    Some Centmin Mod users have already hired me for paid working in Centmin Mod CentOS 7 to EL8/EL9 migrations and I've used centmin.sh menu option 21 for the migrations but the restoration part right now isn't as user friendly as yet as you can see from documentation at centminmod/datamanagement/centmin.sh-menu-21.readme.md at 130.00beta01 · centminmod/centminmod
     
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    Nice! I will probably just do a clean install.
     
  17. eva2000

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    centmin.sh menu option 21 is meant to be as close to as a clean install. You setup new EL8/EL9 Centmin Mod server as destination and centmin.sh menu option 21 allows various ways of backing up CentOS 7 server and migrating data to the new EL8/EL9 freshly installed Centmin Mod server then there are some scripts + manual steps to restore that backed up data to EL8/EL9 Centmin Mod server. Basically, what you'd do manually just with automation and a way faster data transfer routine that will be faster than standard transfer methods folks usually use :)

    The faster transfer routine I have been using since 2021 from my blog https://blog.centminmod.com/2021/01...eed-for-linux-backups-using-zstd-compression/ :)

     
  18. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Rocky Linux. There is no reason to use AlmaLinux since July, 13 2023. As AlmaLinux is not based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but is since based on CentOS Stream. Stream which you should avoid under any circumstance in business use.

    AlmaLinux Stream: Why and how? - Androides
     
  19. eva2000

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    Though that's why I personally like AlmaLinux not being tied to RHEL allows it to do things and offer up packages that you usually wouldn't have available.

    In fact Centmin Mod has already added AlmaLinux's official Rsync backport YUM repo for EL8/EL9 installs and has gone full circle as AlmaLinux's official Rsync backport YUM repo was inspired by my Centmin Mod custom rsync RPMs https://community.centminmod.com/th...h-zstd-support-for-centos-7.20768/#post-98783 :D

     
  20. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    That is exactly what Oracle Linux offers. (RH)EL 1:1 clone with as extra packages; its own edition of the Kernel, PHP, MySQL etc. Upstream of the same software is and remains available as well.

    AlmaLinux offers the same kind of extra's that is fine. The problem is the foundation of AlmaLinux and that is CentOS Stream. Stream which is RHEL beta software:

    "CentOS Stream may seem like a natural choice to replace CentOS Linux, but it is not designed for production use."