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Discussion in 'Install & Upgrades or Pre-Install Questions' started by eva2000, May 8, 2022.

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  1. May 8, 2022 #1
    eva2000

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    Ah, now we are able to test the new EL8 distros, nice!

    Going to reinstall my staging server soon to test it out.
     
  3. May 8, 2022 #3
    eva2000

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    Not yet 124.00stable is CentOS 7 only. 130.00beta01 is CentOS 7 only for now, EL8 distro is still hidden behind a custom installer not publicly available right now, but the code is there :)
     
  4. May 9, 2022 #4
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    Congrats to Aus @eva2000 for his latest stable release.:)
     
  5. May 9, 2022 #5
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    Is 130.00beta01 going to continue to be production safe?

    Until now the beta version was the version to be used for new installs since several years now. If we switch from the old beta to the new beta version will this be the recommended version in the future too or should we switch to the stable code for productive servers?

    I understand that for new servers it will still be best to use the beta code. Or is that wrong?
     
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    buik

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    New server or used server. Stable is always preferred for production.
    Unless you are running unimportant (test) sites or tryouts.
    Never run your money site on beta software is my recommendation.
     
  7. May 9, 2022 #7
    eva2000

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    In context for Centmin Mod, only reason 123.09beta01 was recommended over 123.08stable was that stable version was lagging behind in many newer features etc. But now that 124.00stable is based off the 123.09beta01 branch work, 124.00stable is recommended.

    130.00beta01 is now for my work on EL8+ but as that work is still hidden behind variable flags right now, only I will be testing EL8+ compatibility. While most folks who try 130.00beta01 right now will have same experiences as 124.00stable due to being only able to test CentOS 7. Of course over time 124.00stable and 130.00beta01 code will diverge and eventually I'll open up the EL8+ flags so all Centmin Mod users can also test EL8+ distro like Alma Linux 8 and Rocky Linux 8
     
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    Was going to ask the other day regarding when the 09beta was going to become a stable branch. Excellent! You the man @eva2000 !
     
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    When EL8+ becomes ready for production use, what will be the migration path off servers presently running on CentOS 7?
     
  10. May 17, 2022 #10
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    Right now, you'd have to do a full server migration to a new server with Alma Linux 8 or Rocky Linux 8. There is no in place upgrade/switch for CentOS 7 to Alma Linux 8/Rocky Linux 8 so treat it like a server move.

    Migration guides like https://community.centminmod.com/threads/centmin-mod-site-data-migration-guide.10382/ still apply AFAIK.
     
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    Thanks for the info - at least we have 2 years before the move is necessary.
     
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    I just saw Hetzner doesn't offer CentOS 7 anymore for their VPS servers:(

    Hope the 8+ (beta) gets released soon so I can start testing.
     
  13. May 19, 2022 #13
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    You sure, I just checked and CentOS 7 is still available

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    You are right. I'm looking on my mobile now and I also see 7.

    On my desktop I only saw 8&9

    (n)
     
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    ReliableSite doesn't have CentOS7 install option also :(

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  16. May 30, 2022 #16
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    I have feeling the EL9 release is imminent.

    Hurry MariaDB
     
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    MariaDB repo for CentOS 8 is available now :)
     
  18. Jun 7, 2022 #18
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    It's been available for a while :) It's EL9 MariaDB repo that 130.00beta01 is waiting on for Alma Linux 9 :)
     
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    Hmm, Mariadb.org doesn't even have the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS repo available. With that pace it can take months before they add EL9 repos :(

    That sucks because I want to setup a new dedicated Hetzner server for EL9 and now they have no setup fees so that saves quite a lot of money...

    Maybe it's possible to use 8/8.5 as a base? Those images and repos are available for most providers afaik.
     
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    I wouldn't touch EL9 yet. If you check their issue trackers and EPEL etc, there are still a lot of missing YUM packages and dependencies for 3rd party software that have yet to be built for EL9.
     
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