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Any thoughts for "Intel i7-4790K" based server to host XF/WP ?

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  1. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

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    I'm planning of purchasing this server:
    [​IMG]

    Main reason:
    • Cheap
    • Very fast CPU Clock 4.4 ghz
    • SSD
    Planing to host are only XF/WP powered sites.
    Is it ideal/good?
    Or that server is only good for Game Server? :)
     
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    only concern is non-ECC memory but interested to see how fast Centmin Mod installs on that as been eying it myself :)
     
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    I was actually looking at the same package on OVH. Did a little research, besides what @eva2000 mentioned, there was the quad vs. dual channel memory and multi thread processing. Minecraft / games do better with single thread processing it's better to use the desktop chips vs. the server chips.

    I read the information awhile ago and can't remember all the arguments I read. But the gist I got out of it was single threaded vs. multi threaded. Not exactly sure how that impacts running a server, but people were all saying - if you're running a gaming server use the desktop chips, if you're running a server for websites, use the Xeon chips.

    I'm sure you could search online for i7 vs. E5 for server and see the forum posts I ran across.
     
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    @RoldanLT did you end up getting one of these? I've been doing some more research on these and I like what I'm seeing.
     
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    Not yet :D
     
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    I'm looking at getting one myself, the price point is much better than the Hosting Range Servers and obviously the chips are MUCH faster than the Hosting Range Xeon-D chips. I wish they offered more choices as far as the storage goes, but for $79 a month, that price is crazy.
     
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    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

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    Please do and leave us benchmark and result :D.
     
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    The non-ECC RAM is my only holdup. Though, I have an i7 and non-ECC RAM on my personal desktop and run tons of "mission critical" stuff ie "my stuff" which is all mission critical in my mind ;). Over the 4 years I've had this machine, I've never lost anything. Assuming that a Windows system is probably more prone to causing memory errors than a Linux server running a PHP script and some other software, I think the whole non-ECC loss of data due to a memory issue is overblown. Sure, if I was running the NASDAQ trading system I would want ECC memory, but I'm not. With that being said, I'd love to actually see some results of what happens when non-ECC memory has an error and the results of what happens to that data from the error.

    Advantages of ECC Memory - Puget Custom Computers

    The only other point that I got from another article that I read was that the Xeon chips were made to run 24/7. Where as the i7 chips weren't.
     
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    I have ordered one for myself now :).
    I will be using this for XF and WP sites.
     
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    I prefer speed than redundancy, so I configure it like this :D.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Nginx Upgrade/Re-Compile:
    Don't know what 09beta recent changes makes this takes a bit longer.
    Without Cloudflare Patch:
    PHP Upgrade/Re-Compile:
     
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    it's the switch from LibreSSL to OpenSSL static compile for Nginx for Nginx 1.9.12 compatibility that slows things down due to longer compile times for OpenSSL !

    Nginx with OpenSSL is around 20-35% slower than Nginx with LibreSSL for compilation times
     
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    So if using LibreSSL, My Nginx and Php upgrade would only take 1 minute :D.
     
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    You can try compiling Nginx 1.9.11 with /etc/centminmod/custom_config.inc set to
    Code:
    LIBRESSL_SWITCH='y'
    which will use LibreSSL 2.2.6 instead to compare Nginx compilation times with Nginx 1.9.12 and OpenSSL 1.0.2g
     
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    Not for now, I'm preparing this server for my own Forum :D.
     
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    only takes a few seconds :)
     
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    Nginx 1.9.11 w/ LibreSSL

    1st run:
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    2nd:
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    Much faster :)
     
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    Nginx 1.9.12 w/ OpenSSL 1.0.2g:

    1st run:
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    2nd run:
    Total Nginx Upgrade Time: 56.913169478 seconds