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Discussion in 'AlmaLinux 8 & Rocky Linux 8 Beta Testing' started by buik, Sep 29, 2022.

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  1. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    CMM8 introduces Enterprise Linux (EL) 8 and in addition AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux.
    Which Linux distribution do you use?

     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    I tend to favour AlmaLinux where possible :)
     
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    I personally love Oracle Linux, but i mostly use CentOS because Centminmod.

    Raising the bar, I would love to see AlmaLinux 9 supported and MariaDB 10.9
     
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  4. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Why do you love Oracle Linux? Are there certain options and features why you prefer Oracle?
    Why specifically? Alma and Rocky are close.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Guess it's partially related to AlmaLinux folk's experience with their CloudLinux and KernelCare stuff and fact that AlmaLinux seems to been adopted by more web hosts out of the box earlier than Rocky linux.
     
  6. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Could be. For example. One of the largest control panels:

    That's a pretty big difference.
     
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    Except for DigitalOcean.
     
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    eva2000 Administrator Staff Member

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    Yeah control panels are determining what gets supported first - though I guess lucky no one is looking to Centmin Mod for an example LOL
    Yeah not sure what's up with that :)
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Wrong :)
    Hetzner is on the Rocky only train to.
    But I also understand.
    Within just a few minutes you are from Rocky to Alma or visa versa with the migrate script.
     
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    Yeah I asked Upcloud when they will have AlmaLinux 9 and Rocky Linux 9 OS available as they only have EL8. They said they're reworking their distro release system to support faster syncing of versions once a distro is released. But because of this work they aren't prioritizing EL9 versions and instead gave me commands to do in place Rocky Linux 8 to Rocky Linux 9 major upgrades - so I added that as one of the options in my automated Terraform scripting. So right now with Terraform and Upcloud for EL9 I test on Rocky Linux 9 :)
     
  11. buik

    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Then post those upgrade commands on the forum.
     
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    This part is from my Rocky Linux 8 to Rocky Linux 9 upgrade script. 11 commands to do in-place Rocky Linux 8 to Rocky Linux 9 upgrade as long as no 3rd party YUM repos have been installed i.e. EPEL etc. It seems to mess up the in-place upgrade even if previously installed 3rd party YUM repos and removed them before doing the below commands. So really needs to be a fresh virgin installed Rocky Linux 8 OS.
    Code (Text):
    REPO_URL="https://download.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9/BaseOS/x86_64/os/Packages/r"
    curl -4sL "$REPO_URL" > repourl
    RELEASE_PKG=$(cat repourl | grep -Eo "rocky\-release\-[0-9.]+\-[0-9.]+\.el9\.noarch\.rpm" | uniq)
    REPOS_PKG=$(cat repourl | grep -Eo "rocky\-repos\-[0-9.]+\-[0-9.]+\.el9\.noarch\.rpm" | uniq)
    GPG_KEYS_PKG=$(cat repourl | grep -Eo "rocky\-gpg\-keys\-[0-9.]+\-[0-9.]+\.el9\.noarch\.rpm" | uniq)
    sudo dnf update
    sudo dnf -y install $REPO_URL/$RELEASE_PKG $REPO_URL/$REPOS_PKG $REPO_URL/$GPG_KEYS_PKG
    rm -rf /usr/share/redhat-logos
    sudo dnf --releasever=9 --allowerasing --setopt=deltarpm=false distro-sync -y
    sudo rpm --rebuilddb
    reboot
    
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Why do you prefer a dangerous in-place upgrade between 8 to 9 anyway, when Red Hat didn't even support in-place upgrades before recently? And now only in very specific circumstances, using Leapp.

    Why not install CentOS 9 Stream on Upcloud and migrate to AlmaLinux 9 or Rocky Linux 9 afterwards, with their migration script?

    Although CentOS 9 Stream is unstable and not suitable for use in production, if you ask me. It does support EL9 throughout its support phase. And thus ideal for migrating to AlmaLinux 9 * or Rocky Linux 9. Albeit Red Hat likes to see that you migrate to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9. Hence that compatibility. :)

    *
     
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    Main reason is Unbreakeable Linux Kernel, a subscription service for a self patching rebootless kernel upgrade, oracle db support and cluster tools, amid that is bibary compatible with redhat, centos, etc.
     
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    It's only for automated testing so nothing for production use :)
     
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    buik “The best traveler is one without a camera.”

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    Oki doki. Then consider the message for another reader wondering how to migrate Enterprise Linux (EL) easily: As easy as pie!